Or "Under God" from the pledge?
Thanks in advance.
I'm not asking whether they should be removed, neither am I suggesting they should be. I'm asking what RIGHTS would be violated by removing them.
Geez some people are defensive…
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February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
The Right Wing Christians will feel violated.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Nothing would be violated. It would only reinforce the idea that, as a Nation, we are a diverse group of people who have different beliefs, different values and different gods.
This is not a Christian nation. The US was founded on the expressed lack of religion. Thomas Jefferson, for instance, was an atheist.
"Say nothing of my religion. It is known to my god and myself alone."
"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."
"I am for freedom of religion, & against all maneuvres to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another."
"I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance, or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others."
"Among the most inestimable of our blessings is that … of liberty to worship our Creator in the way we think most agreeable to His will; a liberty deemed in other countries incompatible with good government and yet proved by our experience to be its best support."
– Thomas Jefferson
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
and conversely, what right is violated by letting it remain?
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
There is no mention of God on Australian Coins and Bills… HEHE
EDIT: To Angus: Seperation of CHurch and State you idiot
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
treason to the american government and US
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
For one thing there is NO Xtian. We are CHRISTians. remove the quote ( IN GOD WE TRUST ) you are denying God,and putting this nation into a place you do now wish to be. God must come first.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
none .. its just a ploy to get you to think its worth somthing more than paper anyway …
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
None.
It shouldn't be on there, it makes the US appear incredibly stupid.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
You're gonna get answers blabbing on about the fact that the US is a "christian nation" or something. Pure BS. The US is a secular republic.
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies." - Benjamin Franklin
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
The Right Wing?
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
I would say freedom of speech
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
None to my knowledge, I think it should be removed because we are all not religious, but it doesn't really matter to me
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Nothing, I just hate political correctness. I like hearing people whine over it, like its a big deal. It says god, now I'm offended
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
No rights would really be violated by removing it, its just stupid to remove it. The "separation of church and state" argument is bs, because it says nothing of the sort in constitution, its a freedom of religion clause. I don't think any inherent rights are violated by removing it though
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Freedom of Religion….ironically. (That is, if it were removed by any basis other than the will of the people).
If the people so choose to honor God, without establishing a federally mandated religion, what part of our Constitution prohibits this?
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
None, the constitution was violated when it was put on coins and in the pledge of allegiance in the first place.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
why would u remove it anyways? thats retarded. just leave well enough alone. who cares if it says 'god' stop being such a baby about it
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
it would offend the christian people.. a majority of the united states is christian and shouldn't have to change things because of people entering our country.. they don't change for us
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
If God existed, I really don't think he would want his name printed on something that has caused so much envy, violence and greed.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Denial that their true god is money.
To think the "name of god" even goes into stripper g-strings and traded into the hands of drug dealers. Do you REALLY want your god's name on it?
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
I'm not aware of any rights it would violate or why a Christian would care if the generic god was removed from money
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
The money would lose it's value of course.
No seriously, just remove it yourself like I do. I use a Sharpie marker and cross out "god" from all of my money.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Technically, I suppose nothing would be violated. But given that we all have freedom of religion, I do wonder why it deeply offends some people. People don't have to consider God to be the Christian God; it can be everything from their dog to Allah to a higher consciousness of human cooperativeness or whatever else they want.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Since when was god ever associated with money.Heck…take it off.Does anyone actually believe god wanted or asked to be associated with it.THINK
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
I don't think there would be a 'right' per say violated by removing the "In God We Trust" from the currency, however, we know the spiritual significance of taking God out of the picture, this would be one step closer to our country shunning Him. I personally believe that when a nation rejects God, He will reject them. If He rejects the U.S. we will fall as a nation. (heck the signs are already all around us, this nation is falling now, unfortunately)
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
It doesn't violate a "right"…
What it does do is further the irrational bigotry against Christians and further exposes the "tolerant" as being mainly intolerant. Even if you don't believe in God…you have to ask yourself why it still bothers you so much that you would go on a crusade to eliminate tradition.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
You know - I am not Christian any more - but I remember what Jesus said in the temple when he threw the money changers out. Seems very odd to have his name on money to begin with - I really do not think he enjoys this association with our money. So I would like it more if they left God off the money - and think he might like that also.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
None.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
The big question is shouldn't you be including other religions on the coins and in the pledge? Maybe have in alla we trust on a nickle, or would that cause offence because its a coin of smaller value? maybe you should include them all on one coin? but then you,d have coins the size of plate mats and we can all see the down side to that.
There's no way around it but to remove it or come across as a country that is 100% christian with no tolerance for any other religion. oh haha is this an american specific question? (only joking
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February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
I think Atheists misunderstand.
While America may not be a Christian Nation, it is and always has been a nation of Christians. Christians, being in the vast majority (for America was specifically founded so that Christians could live without Rome's persecution), built this nation and formed its society and culture - albeit with the help of a minority which at least knew that they were building a nation made for Christians, as clearly stated by Washington, and that if they did not want to be part of that then they were free to live their lives in private without destroying what was built. For example, i would never go and become a citizen of Saudi Arabia and then demmand that they change their entire culture in order to suit my personal faith which is contrary to their's. That would be appallingly arrogant. Now, yes of course you have the freedom to believe something different, however, that right is not a license to undermine our society. We will not change our society for you simply because you don't want to participate in it. To force a nation of Christians to alter our entire way of life just because you choose to do your own thing is as absurd as foreigners coming to America and expecting us to surrender our culture and way of life to conform to the culture they came from.
[Your thumbs down demonstrates your total ignorance of the history of America and shows you to be a dangerous threat to society]
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Here's one that surely please the Thumbs Downers… But Historically I've heard suggestions that "In God We Trust" was only added to the currency a few decades ago.
Meaning within living memory - it was a moot point.
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February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
I think one should not mess with GOD [smiling]
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
None but the US Supreme court has already ruled that it doesn't violate the establishment clause.
How do you like them apples?
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
In a "free enterprise" economy like ours, you cannot live without using money. You can't spend US currency without expressing a religious belief. A person who doesn't believe that particular belief is compelled to express it anyway. Of course, this all falls under the heading of "c'mon people, surely you have more important things to complain about — at least you *have* money."
Interestingly, the pledge was originally written by a Methodist minister, and it did *not* include the words "under God." Those words were added during the Cold War, to make us feel superior to the "Godless comunists." I guess it worked.
As a Christian, I have no opinion about it whatsoever. When I pledge my allegiance to the flag, I'm pledging allegiance to the flag. When I pray to God, I'm praying to God. So leave it in, take it out, whatever you will.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
The right of Christians to be able to constantly shove their demented superstition in everyone's faces. That's in the Constitution, isn't it?
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Where did you get the idea that the founding fathers of this nation meant the Christian God specifically?
By and large, they were deists - not Christians.
God bless you.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Everything we stand for
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Our founding fathers were religious, they based a lot of what the U.S. is today off of their beliefs, when they said there will be freedom of religion they meant, we're religious, but you can stay here if you want. So by choosing to live here you choose to deal with a religious country. This whole remove things relating to religion from the U.S. is like being a welcome guest in a religious person's house and demanding that they remove all the pictures/statues of their god because they're letting you live there.
If it annoys you, you can choose to leave.
that's just my opinion about the situation, to answer your question, no rights would be violated.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Go over to England and figure out why they haven't stopped saying "God Save the Queen."
What right or rights would be removed? None. Would anyone notice? Not many people, and then it wouldn't last long. But the question is why? It's tradition. It's part of America's heritage. It's part of the history of the country. So… why?
Sort of like when I was younger and they were pushing to change the national anthem from "Star Spangled Banner" to "Oh Beautiful." It was messing with history. It wouldn't have hurt anything or hurt any rights. But why?
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
kgv-gods
You said exactly what I wanted to say.
I read a story about a king who wanted to conquer a nation but could not, so he called a prophet to put a curse on them so they would fall. The prophet was unable to curse them but told the king to send his women to intermarry with the men he wanted to destroy, that way those men would follow the kings gods and beliefs and turn their back on their own God and regect His help and they would fall.
The easiest way to destroy a nation is by contamination; destroy their religion and the family unit, and it will crumble at the faundation: God and family.
We will all be held accountable, the choice is ours. Once we stop breathing, it will be too late to change.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
This is a quote from the 1st Chief Justice of the Supreme Court:
“"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers. And it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest, of a Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."
John Jay to Jedidiah Morse February 28, 1797
John Jay's long and eventful life, from 1745 to 1829, encompassed the movement for American independence and the creation of a new nation — both processes in which he played a full part. His achievements were many, varied and of key importance in the birth and early years of the fledgling nation. Although he did not initially favor separation from Britain, he was nonetheless among the American commissioners who negotiated the peace with Great Britain that secured independence for the former colonies. Serving the new republic he was Secretary for Foreign Affairs under the Articles of Confederation, a contributor to the Federalist, the first Chief Justice of the United States, negotiator of the 1794 "Jay Treaty" with Great Britain, and a two-term Governor of the State of New York. In his personal life, Jay embraced a wide range of social and cultural concerns.
Sure seems like he thought we were a Christian nation